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hellokaka


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Monday September 09, 2013 8:42 PM

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finally passed my p1. I spent so much efforts on this test that every my co-worker thinks it's very "easy" and based on "common sense". failed in May with score 533 and re-scheduled my 2nd try twice, work full time long hours, 2 young kids, sick for 2 weeks, most important, English is not my first language. A lot of words/concepts are "common sense" for you but completely new words to me. But if I can do it, of course you can do it.

Here are my tips
1. using Gleim's book alone is not recommended. Maybe IIA learning system alone is also inadequate. I used Gleim only on my first attempt and failed. So many questions/concepts I never saw, or not very clear. such as, each party's role and responsibility in ERM. IIA is much better. When I got 96%/98% accurate on my IIA learning system questions (300+ questions), I went back to Gleim question bank (771 questions) and got <70% accurate.
2. Recommend to study p1 and p2 together. Some concepts are overlapped. I read through IIA p2 reference book and answered all the questions in Sec A.
3. must think globally and broadly when choosing the "best" answer, not just think your own organization (extremely important for ppl with IA experiences. )Even my boss (CAE) told me please don't use him as reference to answer the questions.
4. do NOT memorize the answers. When you re-study the qeustions and get very high accurate rate (>90%), stop studying them, instead, study the reference book, the Standards, PA, then come back and study the questions again.
5. Summarize all the questions that you missed, understand why. I noticed in today's exam, at least 2-3 questions are similar as the questions in learning system, they just word them differently. If you really understand the question and the key points IIA wants to test, you will get them done quickly

I'll start studying my p2 tonight. Any suggestions/tips are very welcome! Good luck to everyone!

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MrMohamed


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Monday September 16, 2013 7:30 PM

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Thank you for your precious advices, wishes you luck

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energy


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Wednesday September 18, 2013 11:15 PM

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Can someone help me!
I studied for part 1 using Gleim only and got overall 85 in all test, but I failed terribly scoring 514
I thought that I understand the concept wrote in a not book and studied over and over and I still failed. The found that the questions were really hard to figure out exactly what the questions required. I kept reading it over and over again
Then I did the CIA 2 last , Monday and I failed with a score of 555 using IIA learning system I thought I did well but that was not the case

Note sure what to use to study now. Is there a technique to use to answer the exams questions
I need to pass all three parts by dec 2013 and I am very frustrated
I got credit for part 4 and need advice how to pass all three parts by dec 2013
I m a morning person and I study everyday from 4am to 7 am for the last 6 months
I feel stupid!!!!! Help me please!!!

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hellokaka


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Thursday September 19, 2013 3:33 PM

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sorry to hear that, energy.

When I prepared for p1, I make sure I get 90%+ (some sections 95%+) on every section of IIA learning system and study all the quetions I missed. Try not to study one single section over and over in a short time period and then assume you master it, because you will remember all the questions and answers.
I personally don't think Gleim is enough for part 1. I used it for my first take and failed. I had exactly same feeling as yours--uncertain on most of the questions and some questions are not covered in the book/CD. Then I bought IIA and studied harder. When I took the test this time, I'm certain on most of the questions and clearly know what they are trying to test.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

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Energy28


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Thursday September 19, 2013 10:00 PM

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Thanks for the advice
I will try the IIA for the part 1

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sanja


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Tuesday October 08, 2013 3:53 PM

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Hi

for me English is not my first language too. I have declared for 3-part exam and couple of days ago try to pass part one. Score: failed (558 points).

I have used Gleim books and software 16th and 17th edition: very detailed passed all 7 chapters (lessons) with worst score over 90% - I have tried to understand and apply concept. But exam was terrible: very long questions, not understand what is meaning of question, very tricky answers, so much question which does not exists in Gleim materials even in concept, some of question which are not part IA area at all. I can not estimate how much time I took for Part 1 because I have start to learn long time ago part 1 from editiin 16th ( 4 part exam) and them replace it on 3part exam. But I really spent a lot of time, and lot of very hard work. I feel very bad, and understand you very well how you fell.

What is your impression about IIA materials and questions, are they better?

My next attempt is after new year and I will try again.

Best wishes for next attempt.

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coffeepassi0n


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Wednesday October 09, 2013 11:27 AM

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Last Monday, I failed Part 1 (Old Format). I scored very bad 529. I used Gleim. In the exam, many questions have more than one answer that appears correct. Therefore, I had to guess. For example, you have a questions, two answers look completely wrong but the remaining two choices looks identical. I will set for Part 2 (Old Format) on 9th December 2013. I am really disappointed. I do not know what to do. When I had Gleim my overall score was 88%.

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hellokaka


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Wednesday October 09, 2013 11:12 PM

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coffeepassion, do you get 88% on all sections or it's average score? When you got 88% did you already remember all/some of the questions? if yes, I think you need to get higher percentage 90%+ even 95%+ and need to understand every single choice of the answer (why it's right why it's wrong, what is the question testing?)as I said, I think Gleim is not enough for at least p1 according to my experience, but still a lot of ppl just use Gleim to pass the exam.

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tatsss


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Friday October 11, 2013 5:40 AM

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Passing the CIA Part 1 and 2 (I am plannig to go for part 3 in Nov) is NOT about getting 90% in Gleim.
I passed Part 1 and 2 on my first try and both within a period of 4 months. It is about understanding the concepts.You will note that only a maximum of 10% of Gleim questions come in the exam so why do you have to feel passing the Gleim questions gives you an edge-you are ignoring the other 90% which is in the reading material.Do not study to pass the Gleim questions study to understand the principles and concepts.You dont even need to master them as sometimes a general understanding of the concepts will assist you in the exam.Also if English isnt your strong point then you may find the exam hard as you will take time to really understand the requirements of the question and at the end you may end up not having enough time to finish the exam.To summerise, 1. Dont put too much emphasis on how you performed in the Gleim qsns-ensure thet you understand the concepts in the books and what the concepts mean to an Internal Auditor and his work. 2. Try and understand the requirements of the questions-IIA will set traps that you will fall in if you dont understand the questions.On all my passes, I finished the exam thinking there is no way i hell I was going to pass the exam but I did pass them. Dont loose hope-be strategic and focus on the right things-WHAT THE STUDY CONCEPT MEAN TO THE INTERNAL AUDITOR AND HIS WORK.

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Part 1 (first try)

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coffeepassi0n


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Friday October 11, 2013 7:03 AM

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First of all, thank you for your prompt response "hellokaka". The 88% was my score as cumulative, I mean from Study Unit 1 up to Study Unit 10. No I did not memorize the questions. Actually, when I solved them again and got 88%, I was applying concepts, and it was as I solve these questions for the first time. Ummm, I am studying now for Part 2 Old Format my test is on 9th December 2013. How do you study from both Gleim and IIA material at the same time? What is your technique?


Thank you for advice. It is highly appreciated.

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